Collateral blood relative

Sir Johann III von Mengen

Also recorded as Johann III von Mengen · Jean III de Mengen · Johannes von Mengen III

Lord of Dalheim, castle-governor of Neu-Warsberg and justice of German Lorraine; husband of Catherine de Bauffremont by marriage contract of 27 January 1340. He is a separate historical figure and is not Mengin Le Clerc.

Dates
Died after 1378
Titles and offices
  • Herr zu Dalheim
  • Burgvogt zu Neu-Warsberg
  • Justice of German Lorraine
House or family
Von Mengen
Spouse
Catherine de Bauffremont

Marriage contract with Catherine de Bauffremont, 27 January 1340

Children in this pedigree
Relationship to Brandon
Research record only. An earlier reconstruction of this archive identified him with Mengin Le Clerc; that identification has been withdrawn and he is not an ancestor of Brandon Noble LeClaire.
Evidence status
Published Genealogy

Collateral blood relative. Research record only. An earlier reconstruction of this archive identified him with Mengin Le Clerc; that identification has been withdrawn and he is not an ancestor of Brandon Noble LeClaire.

Line to Brandon Noble LeClaire

This person is a collateral blood relative. No line of descent runs through them.

Explore their ancestry

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All 2 recorded ancestors of Sir Johann III von Mengen

Research history

Retained so that the history of the research can be followed. The Bauffremont, Ray, Faucogney, Joinville, Auxonne and Salian material attached to his wife belongs to this separate record and not to the Le Clerc direct pedigree.

Sources for this record

Sources are listed in order of evidential weight. A contemporary record outranks a printed reference work; a printed reference work outranks a derivative pedigree or an online database.

  1. 1. Major published genealogical reference

    Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Europäische Stammtafeln, Volume VII, Tafel 33

    • Cited for: Sir Johann III von Mengen and his Mengen ancestry
    • Cited for: His marriage to Catherine de Bauffremont
  2. 2. Major published genealogical reference

    Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln, Neue Folge, Volume XXVI, Tafel 74

    • Cited for: Sir Johann III von Mengen and Catherine de Bauffremont
    • Cited for: Pierre I de Bauffremont and the Bauffremont relationships
    • Cited for: Catherine de Bauffremont as daughter of Pierre I de Bauffremont and Jeanne de Ray
  3. 3. Major published genealogical reference

    Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln, Neue Folge, Volume XVII, Tafel 121

    • Cited for: Anna von Mengen and the subsequent Mengen connection
  4. 4. Accessible derivative pedigree

    Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors — Sir Johann III von Mengen and Catherine de Bauffremont

    • Cited for: Sir Johann III von Mengen, Herr zu Dalheim, Burgvogt zu Neu-Warsberg, justice of German Lorraine, died after 1378
    • Cited for: His parents Sir Johann II the Tall von Mengen and Adelaide de Parroye
    • Cited for: Marriage contract with Catherine de Bauffremont dated 27 January 1340
    • Cited for: Catherine de Bauffremont as daughter of Pierre I de Bauffremont, Sire de Vauvillers and Ruppes (died 1347), and Jeanne de Ray; her will of 1367
    • Cited for: Anna von Mengen, living after 17 January 1409

    A derivative compilation. It is cited here because it reproduces and references the printed Stammtafeln tables listed above; the printed works remain the authority.

  5. 5. Corroborating genealogical database

    Stromsnes genealogical database — family record of Johann III von Mengen

    • Cited for: Independent corroboration of the marriage of Johann III von Mengen and Catherine de Bauffremont (Beffroimont) on 27 January 1340
    • Cited for: Anna von Mengen and Johann IV von Mengen as their children

    This database gives Catherine's mother as Anna von Parvys, conflicting with the Stammtafeln-derived pedigree followed here, which gives Jeanne de Ray. It is not used as an authority for Catherine's parentage; the conflict is preserved in the research ledger.

Further references

  • Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Europäische Stammtafeln, Volume VII, Tafel 33
  • Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln, Neue Folge, Volume XXVI, Tafel 74
  • Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln, Neue Folge, Volume XVII, Tafel 121
  • Mémoires de l'Académie nationale de Metz

Sir Johann III von Mengen is recorded in the ancestry of the House of LeClaire alongside 176 other identified individuals.